James, if you can't get justice in RoC as you say, (v. regretable) suggest u complain to EU Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg, Interpol and speak to your Consulate how they can help.

I'd write to a few Newspapers and TV Stations if I were you.

Good luck.

Don't critisise Mr. Bryant too much, all of you critics. He said what only every decent politician or person would say. Shame they didn't say this 1974-2003. His motives don't really matter. His statement is the clear Labour Party Policy on Cyprus, and does not conflict with TurkoBritish friendship agreement. No need to critisise it and Britain's foreign policy like jealous unwanted children. The British Government, I have no doubt are persuing very friendly policies with both Greek states, though we both don't need British reassurance as much as we did in the past anymore, while it is crucial now to show friendship from European nations to Mr. Erdoan's progressive and improving Turkey because of Mr Sarkozy.

(By the way, my view is because of the failure of David Cameron to be a true Conservative with conservative agendas re: Economy & Public Sector, Global Warming, Europe etc. and the corruption which is evident in his party with Lord Ashcroft and Conservative Party MPs very wet and worst offenders stealing money from hard pressed British workers, I doubt the Conservatives will form a majority (300 seats) in May at Westminster. More likely another LibLab pact. Therefore, Mr. Bryant may very well be a future LibLab pact Foreign Secretary, while Mr Talat, or more unlikely, Mr Eroglu may end up as future Presidents of Cyprus helped by GC votes.)

Mike,

I cannot even Approach my house, My mail is taken, The lawyers refuse to return any documents, The land registry Will not give Any details out on What has happened to my House.

So Who Does a EU Citizen go to in Cyprus, When the Authorities do nothing But constantly cover-Up.

In Affect the EU Agreements and treaties Signed by the Cypriot Govt Are Worthless Eu Civil rights, property, the Ability to Show good governance. Just a Wall of Silence

And, Mr Alexandrou, how many mainland Greeks have been imported to colonise the southern half of the island?

Never has a truer word been said!Cyprus cannot go forward into a better future unless people here accept that the past is past and try to see 'outside the box' towards the benefits a solution would bring to everyone here.But the government and civil society has a lot of hard work to do to change public apathy and indifference towards the current negotiations,especially when the opponents of a federal settlement are so vociferous and control much of the media.Turkey also needs to convince the Greek-Cypriots of its supposed good intentions towards them-a move to hand over Varosha would not cost them anything and would make a dramatic and positive change to the situation here in Cyprus.Although Erdogans words at the press conference with Greek-Cypriot journalists were encouraging they need to be supported by action...

a well written piece with some interesting part which are true and some which are not. As a Turkish cypriot I would like to ask you greek cypriots the following questions. Why were we pushed before the turkish army interviened into 3% of the island? Why were many of us killed by EOKA B and sampsons men? Why do the greek cypriots want ENOSIS with mainland greece? What about or houses and fields we lost in the south(I am from pafos or better was) Why did the greek cypriots want a greek only island with out us turkish cypriots? I am even for the greek cypriot goverment a turkish cypriot so not one of our so called settelers as you call them or new citizens of the turkish republic of cyprus as we call them. I would also like to know why you do not accept these people as cypriots as they were born here and some are in the 3rd generation? Please try to answer without hate I have tried to put my questions politely.Thank you

I agree with Chris Bryant's declaration that the division of Cyprus is a scandal, but he should not be telling the Greek and Turkish Cypriot communities to let go. That smacks of the continuing policy of the UK to divide Cyprus.
Mr. Bryant should therefore properly consider the UK's role in that division. First in 1963 when it started working, in line with NATO policy, to split the island with a Turkish half joining Turkey and a Greek half joining Greece; Secondly, in 1967 and onwards when it was supporting the right wing military government of Greece, which in the 70's sought to distabalise the Republic leading in 1974 with the attempted coup; and
Lastly in and after 1974 when it sanctioned the Turkish invasion and occupation of the northern half of Cyprus (which by 'coincidence' resembled the NATO plans for its divisions. Whilst it has not supported the full union of the Turkish occupied Cyprus with Turkey, which would make Turkey too strong in the Region, the UK has openly supported Turkey in its attempts to split the island in two.
Mr. Brown even entered into a Friendship Treaty with Turkey in which he committed the UK towards working for a divided Cyprus.
As the Court of Appeal reminded the Orams, the UK has an existing treaty obligation going back to 1959 to preserve the territorial integrity, sovereigty and constitution of Cyprus. Mr. Bryant should remind Mr. Brown of that legal commitment and its continuing breach of the Treaty of Guaranty.
Mr. Bryant, should also be reminded that the use of the term 'Turkish Cypriot' is no longer relevant in a situaiton where the majority Turkish Cypriots have long since deserted the occupied area and the few that are left are vastly outnumbered by mainland Turks moved to the island to change its democraphic character. There is no benefit to the true Turkish Cypriots of a divided Cyprus. Mr. Talat, the UK and the US are working for the benefit of Turkey and the mainland Turkish people that now colonise the occupied area.

Get real ,Get Real

And what did Nicos Sampson do with a bulldozer in the TC quarter of Nicosia in 1963? Ask a 'normal' GC

mike,

i think you see in my last What i think i remember 74 very Well my unit was called in, i can tell you at our level the frustration and Anger we felt being held back by our goverment in not Intervening and stopping What Was terrible massacres It Was A horrible time We did What we could.

Now As to A lover of All these countries, I am a Scot Who Served My country and crown full Stop, Turkey USA mean nothing to me. But What Annoys me is The total Silence And cover Up By the ROC in its failure to protect My family And property, especially When the criminals Were Exposed.

When i See the orams case Where british justice protects The greek cypriots, But The Total Silence When its people like me Who have houses in the South.

And My Sense of Justice Is to fight for my Family and rights, if People do not like that Well thats there Opinion, I have a young Son Who Spent Six months getting medical care, plus All therest because Animals shaved His head Hair. And no Cypriot In Authority Wants to tell me Why there is no court case so justice can be Done.

James if you are as you say that you are, such a good and law abiding person interested in addressing injustices particularly those involving Cyprus you wouldn’t be so much in love with America, Turkey and Britain. In fact you would be recognising the in justices perpetrated by Ankara, Washington and London in the last 60 years.

You would be calling for the reunification of the island and the removal of all illegals including those involved with the two so called British military bases. Sorry James from where I sit I can only see double standards.

Christoph,

james is not in the UK.

But i am a law Abiding person, When i see crime i do my best to Stop it. Does not matter what country. When you Start having the Same attidude And respect for the law your Country Will become Better.

Now a Simple truth just now the ROC is Riddled with Scams And corruption, And your leaders lack the political Will To make the GCs Accountable who caused this, because so many of them hold positions of power.

Joining the EU meant Signing treaties, ie protection of property, protection of rights etc But All that has happened is they Are treated as Scraps of paper, So Do you think The TC and other people Who live on the ISLAND can trust a mindset Where A treaty is a piece of paper, Where the rule of law, is a joke.

James is too ignorant to look into the history of Cyprus and see how the machinations of the British Foreign Office promoted and incited inter-ethnci violence on Cyprus. The Brits wanted to hang onto bases on Cyprus and were afraid Cypriot independence movements in the late 1950's would threaten that.

So they stirred up GT vs GC inter-ethnic violence to 'divide and conquer'. Most violence prior to then was GC vs British Military. The Brits armed the TC's and hired them into the police forces. They agitated Turkey's government against Cyprus very cleverly.

There was practically no GC vs GT violence on Cyprus prior to 1960 and Turkey could care less about the island back then. The Brits swung everything around and here we are 50 years later and they still have their bases, what!! So, from the perspective of the British Foreign Office it was an 'effective strategy'. A few thousand GC's and TC's lost their lives, a nation was subjected to foreign invasion, division and Ethnic Cleansing but Britain hung on to her military bases!

And James from UK is lecturing Cypriots on ethical behavior????

Nondas@
Cyprus problems didn’t start at 1974,
How strange, every Greek Orthodox Church educated, is not aware of history of Cyprus between 1963 and 1974
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Here are a few Foreign Press cuttings of mass killings of Turkish Cypriot woman and helpless children, date 1963/1964.
FOR THE NAME OF ENOSIS
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Greek cruelties in Cyprus: Greeks have started an attack on the areas where the Turks are living. The Turks are trying to escape from the Greek attacks, .... 25,000 Turks have already been forced to leave their homes ....”
Daily Express 28 December 1963
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“We went tonight into the sealed-off Turkish quarter of Nicosia in which 200 to 300 people had been slaughtered in the last five days. We are the first western reporters there and we have seen sights too frightful to be described in print and horrors so extreme that people seemed stunned beyond tears and reduced to a hysterical and mirthless giggle that is more terrible than tears ....”
Daily Express 28 December 1963
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Archbishop Makarios, robed and bearded cleric who serves as President of Cyprus, has Byzantine talent for equitation. His government deliberately provoked the clashes and is bent upon the extermination of Turkish population
Washington Post 16 - 2 – 1964
“Until this small community forming a part of the Turkish race, which has been the terrible enemy of Hellenism is expelled from Cyprus the duty of the heroes of EOKA can never be considered as terminated”
Archbishop Makarios
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The Imam of Omorphita and his paralysed blind son were found today murdered in their beds in Nicosia. Turks returning to Omorphita suburb under British escort found the 75 year old priest. Huseyin Igneci riddled with machine gun bullets.

Daily Mail 1964

We agree with the remarks of Britain's minister for Europe Chris Bryant that the division of Cyprus is a scandal and a tragedy and that must end. If we look back to the historical divide of Cyprus we clearly see that the British supported always the Turkish Cypriotminority and renamed them into a community , and theBritish , wanted always to divide Cyprus in order to rule it in order to succeed their strategic interests via their military bases in Cyprus. In most former British colonies when the British wer forced out ,left behind them troubles and division , that is how the British imperialists ruled the world for the own benefits and interests. In Cyprus during the years 1955/1959 Greek Cypriot struggle for liberation the British Authorities hired more than 25,000 Turkish Cypriot illiterate peasants and labourers and trained them to arms , and used them against the Greek Cypriots who were demonstrating against the British rule and for Cyprus to Unite with Greece. The British had used these Auxiliary police forces known as EPIKOURIKA Somata asfalias to quiet down as the too many demonstrations taking place every week ,and also the British used these Turkish Cypriot special police forces to torture the Greek Cypriots who were captured by the British or the police, building thus the hatred and mistrust among the Greek and Turkish Cypriots who lived side by side with no problems , whom the British managed to turn them into two antagonistic fighting groups. On the top of this the British gave Cyprus the 1959 Zurich and London divisive and dysfunctional agreements with the calculating time frame for Cyprus not to function properly because the 18% Turkish Cypriot minority and British collaborators, were rewarded by the British who gave them up to 40% rights and positions in the governing affairs of Cyprus state. There were three Guarantor powers for Cyprus independence and sovereignty Britain Greece ,and Turkey all of which contributed in their own way to divide Cyprus.This is how the British divided Cyprus to begin with, and Cyprus was experiencing a lot of problems and was not able to function properly . When President Makarios tried in the late fall of 1963 to prose some Kind of amendments for its undemocratic and dysfunctional constitution the Turkish Cypriots minority of 18% resorted to mutiny against the Republic of Cyprus with the encouragement and guidance of Turkey and silent approval of the British . Little by little there were fights and gun battles in the Cities in Cyprus and under the Denktas and Turky's orders the Turkish Cypriots tried to form a homogeneous area with only Turkish Cypriots . Turkey invaded Cyprus in hot summer of 1964 and bombed and killed many innocent civilians ,and finally had to withdraw,from the invasion because USA and other international pressure against Turkey's military actions.
Turkey invaded Cyprus on 20th of July 1974, after July 15/1974 the Greek Military Junta's treacherous coup against Makarios which was an orchestrated action and calamity made out of Cyprus in order to divide Cyprus. The results of Turkey'e invasion are very well known ,six thousand Greek Cypriots were Murdered by the Attila army of occupationof 37% of Cyprus. Turkey's Attila army desecrated more than 500 Greek Cypriot Churches and destroyed the Greek cultural and religious heritage ,and Turkey committed war crimes and the Ethnic cleansing of 200,000 Greek Cypriot s and the division of Cyprus continuous without stop. Cyprus and the Greek Cypriots never succumbed to Turkey's brutal force and destruction of their homeland . The Greek Cypriots came out of the ashes of war left behind by the barbarous Turkey's invasion of Attila , and the Greek Cypriots rebuild Cyprus and finally after having accession talks with the EU Cyprus harmonized with the EU signed the EU protocol and in April of 2004 Cyprus became an EU member State. Now Turkey want to join the EU but doesn't abide by the rules ,values, and the EU protocol which it signed but refuses to recognize EU Cyprus and doesn't allow the Cyprus vessels,and planes to enter into the ports and airports of Turkey. USA, Britain and Turkey want Turkey to join the EU without abiding with the EU protocol,.Powerful Turkey is behaving like an enemy towards Greece and Cyprus and Turkey violates constantly sea and air space in the Aegean, and has a polemic behaviour against Cyprus and fights any oil exploration attempts done for oil in Cyprus territorial waters .and violates for the last thirty six years the Cyprus airspace . Now because Turkey wants to join the EU the Greek Cypriots who are the 82% of Cyprus's population have to say yes to dysfunctional plans like the rejected Kofi Annan plan in 2004 and Turkey can get away for its responsibilities and obligations on Cyprus Problem which is that of 1974 Turkey's illegal invasion and occupation of 37% of Cyprus. Turkey has to face its responsibilities and fulfill its obligations towards the EU and has to work according to the rules of the EU protocol otherwise it is not Cyprus's fault if Turkey remains intransigent doesn't get its Army and 200,000 illegal settlers out of Cyprus and is still out of touch with the EU and fails to harmonize with the EU protocol.

sincerely. Nondas

Being a Cypriot living in London now, I find it strange that the above is even considered news in Cyprus. Reporting Chris Bryant's utternings of a supposed support of his govenrment to the Cyprus cause is laughable. I would be surprised if Chris Bryant would know where Cyprus is on the map or any of ts tragic history.
Don't be fooled by members of this bankrupt labour government. Chris Bryant and his pals are holding on to dear life with the elections looming here in the UK and his comments are nothing short of aimed at the local Cypriot vote. The words of Chris Bryant are not worth the underwear he was wearing in which he posted his pictures on the internet. Now that is news worth reporting.

Did Chrysostomos 2 give permission for Bryant to visit ? Perhaps he is getting same problem as C 1 and doesn't know about this man who is telling Greeks what to do with Turks.

'Perfidious Albion' is a perfect name for Great Britain and one which I shall use from this point forward. Nobody's hands have more blood on them in Cyprus than the British! All the current ethnic problems can be laid squarely at their door. They have no class and no character. Never had, never will.

In my book whoever resorts to using swearwords looses the argument.

Emir just to add a footnote.

Tasos Papadopoulos also awarded a medal to the Greek Judge who ruled against Orams in European Court.

Tasos was responsible for EOKA Propaganda and also incharge of a terrorist cell in Nicosia.

This cell was responsible killing many innocent British at murder mile ( Ledra Street).

John Alexander from London.."EOKA – which ceased operations in 1959"
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Tassos Papadopoulos was a key member of EOKA in Nicosia. In 1964 he had advocated the immediate extermination of all Turkish Cypriots should Turkey invade Cyprus.
2005 and 2006 Cyprus President Tassos Papadopoulos, has awarded medals and diplomas of service to 21.000 Greek Cypriots for taking part in the EOKA for struggle of Cyprus.
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John Alexander is a racist pig, and he’s got no respect for others.
‘It was John Alexander who calls EOKA (Woman and Children killers) as freedom fighters.
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You may don’t give a toss about Turks in Kibris, but we are here, and we are here to stay. Want us out of Cyprus? You better go and join the National thugs. Make sure you got pair of running shoes and swimming trunk, because, I tell you, you will need it.
Very near future, it will be a ferry boat from Gazi Magosa to Athens via Crete. It will be free to all Greeks single ticket ONLY.

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shut up chris bryant!!!!!!

get your british troops out of cyprus.

Except gib. what you have does not belong to you and those who it does belong to want it back. Honestly, if the Turks in Cyprus want to live on their own, then they should think about packing up their belongings and clearing off to another country – to Mongolia, perhaps. As for the idea that EOKA – which ceased operations in 1959 – is responsible for partition is preposterous. Those whose slogan was 'partition or death' – i.e. Turkish terrorists – are responsible, along with those who put the guns and bombs in their hands – i.e. Britain and Turkey – for the 'scandal and tragedy' of Cyprus' partition.

Thankfully Mike does not mean Scotland !!! We had a Slight Argument With England which We fixed,

Ahh it good to have History and tradition,

Funny how GCs like JA selectively recall Cypriot history.Remember,it was the GCs via EOKA who wanted the British out of the island.How on earth would the British be 'responsible' for the partition of Cyprus.The only parties resposible for the division (partition) or whatever you choose to call it are EOKA(1955-59) and EOKA 'B'(1974).I lived in Cyprus pre EOKA and during EOKA (1955-59) also at the time of the coup in 1974.Don't try and distort history JA from London.

Alexy Flemming- How did you manage to get out of the straight-jacket?

Very well said David. Those who don't know talk too much! There is too much of that in this paper.

To Alexy Flemming. You are obviously very secure and comfortable in the North! A lot of others are not though!

OK - this is a rather banal story of a British politician in platitudinous mode. Yet more banal are the comments which this piece provikes from on-line readers.

Alexy Flemming - you do your perspective no favours at all by repeatedly cutting and pasting a list which only indicates that some states break apart - many states do not....

SABAN from Famagusta - what is called 'whataboutery' in Northern Ireland moves any possibility of debate into a 'dead zone'which focuses on original cause rather than on what is to be done in the here and now.

James JH Lockhart - submerges the broader issues at stake into a personally driven rant about property.

Each of these contributions are embematic, in their own way, of the paucity of informed and engaging debate which reading the Cyprus Mail can potentially provoke.

Finally, the problem is that comments like this serves only to enduce boredom, killing the desire on behalf of the reader to engage with what is being said.