I don't recollect that this article was about Byron or food?

The Turks are not told what to do by the EU but Greek Cyprus is, so what is the good of asking them to pressure Turkey?

Fevzi, I have you know the term "dude" was first used in print in 1876, in Putnam's Magazine.
You're right my comments on "CHEAP AND CHEERFUL TURKISH FOOD" was meant for Loriot of Lapta. Well spoted and sorry about that. Have a Greek coffee on me.

I am not Greek or Turkish but he seems an unpleasant guy.

All the crap abt Greek food - maybe in Chicago but no where else!

Christoph what would you know abt the USA, your obviously a Brit!

See this: http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/mar/04/greece-sell-islands-germa...

Greek food is far more appetizing than anything Turkish. In the USA everybody knows what Greek food is, nobody partakes of Turkish cuisine.

Impaler, you nailed it

please be quite.
I am lying on my ottoman,sipping my sherbet and eating my rahat lukum. Can you barbarians be a bit more appreciative of the delights the Turks have contributed to civilization?
Forget the rest. The Turks will thank you.

hey Dave,

Are you not Niko from London ???

Question why not post under your family name, have they done Something Wrong ??

Why are you in the UK ?? Should you not be on the green line Black tee shirt & Faded jeans etc

Sorry just had to Ask

Are Turkish Airlines allowed to fly over Republic of Cyprus airspace?Why do N. Cyprus bound aircraft have to land in Turkey?
Do unto others....same old whinging over and over!

having spent time in both north and south of Cyprus over the last17 years and in mainland Turkey for a short time. I find the the people
have very similar feelings towards each other.
The problems I feel will take too many years to solve if left for individuals to overcome. Because of the hurt felt on both sides Only the "benefits" of reconciliation will bring some sort of first step to a revised Cyprus,
The buisines people of that beautifull island
I feel have already found this. They are, because of their different
aspects, the one area of both north and south that is progressing.
The key to progress is in their hands, in the short term if only they can convince the masses of their vision of the future.
Not the polititions

TRUTH be told;

Greetings to you and your family. Enjoy your holiday, hope you're going somewhere nice.

Some of us are off subject discussing the history of Cyprus again, Turkish Cypriots listing the atrocities committed by the Greek Cypriots and the GCs in denial. We all know these events, they were well documented by the foreigh press as well.

Stupid remark from Marcus as well - 'there is no such place as the TRNC except in the minds of a few demented people'. You've got a screw loose in the head, Marcus, or something is really hurting you. The TRNC is not imaginary, it may not be recognised but it's no less a democracy than the South, with its head of state, parliament, judiciary, police, etc. What will you do when direct trade comes, as one day it will, cry your eyes out?

Sticking to the subject of this article, don't cry MARCOULLIS, you know Turkey doesn't recognise you, and Turkey is not a member of the EU, so why do you make a fool of yourself complaining. Everyone knows there is a ban on GC aircraft using Turkish air space and everyone knows there is a ban on direct flights to the North. These will be lifted together, not one before the other.
John from Cyprus: (Fri. 30th July 11.37) 'How will everyone benefit if Ercan opens' - Greek Cypriots will benefit by not incurring their losses due to diverting round Turkish airspace, thus saving millions of Euros.

May we have a human conversation Emir?
Lets see if we have anything in common.
My name is Terry. I enjoy scuba diving and sailing. My family is the most important thing in my life. I find joy in helping those less fortunate.
As a child I wanted to be a doctor, but when I got a bit older and learned how much schooling that required I changed my mind. Now I wish I hadn't been so lazy when it came to my studies.
I am excited to be going on holidays today. Its been a long time coming.
I hope you are enjoying your summer.

Dear Emir

Haven't you relise some comments are NOT worth reading.

Trying to make levelled conversation "some" kids here is not worth.

You try once you try twice, then move on. Just add them to your IGNORE list...

It's exactly the same psychology you apply to your own child.
He cries for attention, you try to explain he cries more. Just ignoring them works miracles. Soon they grow up to handle the realities of the world, knowing shouting does not win them anything, not even an attention.

We use the egos of blame and accusation and it fails to help in the situation.Why cant we use these difficulties of flight bans by both sides to find the seeds of a solution in them?

Champagne is on ICE roll on 2011
Never mind, they will get over it

Emir, i'm honured you read my stuff. You might even learn a thing or 2. Actually i'm from Isligton and yes Yasar halim is the best. I know all the girls that work in their and my first cousins father in-law owns the property. Really that should entitle me to at least 20% discount don't you think?.

DAVE THE IMPALER real Greek name is Niko, which he doesn't like it.
You do come up with some old shyte dont you?
You should go n get a job rather than been on good Haringey Social Security
Here is a Greek Cypriot what he said about his on people.
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Fact 1974:
Antonis Angastiniotis Greek Cypriot
1974 It was Greeks Cypriots who massacred Turkish villages of Aloda Maratha and Sandalari. It was The Greek Cypriots of the neighbouring villages, along with army personnel, attacked these villages. They shot the children, the mothers and any old people of these villages, 126 people who were killed, human rights Greek activist Antonis Angastiniotis had called on the Greek Cypriot people to apologize
to the Turkish Cypriot people, prosecute the culprits and pay compensation to the families of the deceased.
Last few years, 30 Greeks identified and named, this case now at RoC court for Genocide, war crimes and crimes against humanity.

Phil, honstly it's Surprising what you can find once you read beyond the website of the Turkish Foreign Ministry for information on the Cyprus problem and when it's not Censored under Article 301 of the Turkish Penal Code.

The 1964 event usually known as the “Kumsal massacre,” in which a Turkish officer’s wife and children were shot dead in their home, was long used in Turkish Cypriot propaganda, the house turned into a “museum of barbarism.” Although survivors of the event testified that Greek Cypriot paramilitaries committed the act.
By 2004 claims that the Turkish Cypriot leadership itself was responsible for the act were taken quite seriously.
Denktaş’s exaggerated use of the language of martyrdom and images of dead bodies is well documented.

Marcus :- A little Cyprus histroy for you to read.
http://web.deu.edu.tr/kibris/history/6474.html

I am afraid MARCUS but IT IS THAT SIMPLE.

I don't want to discuss how legal or illegal TRNC is, I don't really care. It currently exist and rules in the north, where I live. The name is irrelevant, what's relevant is the attitue of Greek Cypriots towards Turkish Cypriots.

I am amased how narrow minded people can be. You have to deal with same bunch of people whether you call them Turkish Cyptiot leaders or TRNC leaders or Turkish Federal state leaders.

We don't ask for Direct Trade with TRNC, we ask for Direct Trade with Turkish Cypriots. And to remind you we have some trade with the RoC of south Cyprus and yet you don't recognise TRNC!

AND IT IS AS SIMPLE AS THAT:

Your goverment of RoC have a big list in hand they'll ask from Turkey in it's EU accession path. Well the list may consist 100's or 1000's of items, but they have not managed to pass item no1 yet, after 5 years... Let alone recognising RoC it have not opened a single port to Greek Cypriots.

Your leaders are in denial. Papadapuloses vision just did not work. It even backfired as in case of Immovable Property Commitee of Turkish Cypriots!

SORRY BUT IT IS THAT SIMPLE.
Papadapuloses plan might have been complicated, as was the Akritas plan. But the realities are so simple. A minor hickup in the plan makes it useless.

You guys are still at item no 1 and are starting to PANIC. You have yet again miscalculated Turkey's, EU's and ECHR actions.

You guys blame foreign powers and still trust them as they appear to side with you. Germans and French will never allow Turkey in the EU and Turkey knows this, so forget about your list, it's worthless.

Stop blaming outsiders from intervening, then calling them to intervene. I think Alex Downer said exactly the same thing to Crhisto. Which do you want? Intervene or NOT to intervene?

Ans:
-If pressure is to be applied to Turkey/Turkish Cypriots. INTERVENE
-If pressure is to be applied to Greek Cypriots. DON'T INTERVENE

You are just a BIG joke.

As one 'demented' person I greet you, Marcus as another real one!

Sorry Hasan Has from Girne (Fri, July 30th 2010 at 13:24 ), it is not that simple. Turkey is responsible for the occupation of the North and the payment of compensation accordingly. The opening of ports etc is only going to recongnise the illegal selfstyled TRNC regime and legitimise Turkey's stranglehold on the area.

From the point of view of the EU, the UN and the legitimitate government of all of Cyprus if necessary the statud quo must remain for another 36 years.

THIS IS ACTUALLY GOOD that Marcoullis complains to EU because of few days distruption.

Those in the EU will see better what Turkish Cypriots mean by isolation. Another indication why direct trade is need with the Turkish Cypriots, which they have been denied for decades.

EU will realise once more how important it is to allow Direct Trade with Turkish Cypriots and opening up ports in the north.

It will resolve MANY problems issues giving the EU a headache:

1- Turkish Cypriot's economy will start to become independent from Turkey
2- Turkey's ports will open to Greek Cypriots
3- Will help bring solution on the island REALISTICLY closer.

However I can see why French and Germans would not like this since they don't want Turkey in the EU. They prefer to keep Turkey's problems alive not to resolve them. And admit it Greek Cypriots don't really want Turkey in either, not even it gave EVERYTHING GCs ask for. AND TURKEY KNOWS THIS VERY WELL.

Opening up the ports on both sides also will mean headache for many Greek Cypriot leaders as they'll loose the opportunity to use EU accession to try to get what they want from Turkish side and at the same time keep Turkey out of EU. They may also change the perception that "NON-SOLUTION, or status-quo is better option for Greek Cypriot side."

Whats the point of crying to the EU about turkish airspace ??
Turkey is not an EU country , what has it got to do with the EU ...
The GC ministers do nothing but show themselves up for the fools they are ..

Don't obstruct, and ye shall not be obstructed.
Live and let live.