Row over dog ends in tragedy

By George Psyllides Published on August 1, 2010
The murder scene in Dhali yesterday morning

A 63-year-old Dhali bar owner was yesterday arrested on suspicion of killing a Polish man apparently after an argument over the victim’s dog.
Witnesses said 27-year-old Sebastian Duleba got into an argument with the owner, Antonis Loizou, at around 1.30 am after he took his dog into the Kingdom bar in Dali.
The victim left the bar a while later but apparently returned some four hours later and got into another argument with Loizou in the street near the bar.
Duleba had parked his car in such a way that it left the older man blocked in.
“There was a Cypriot asking a foreign man to leave,” said nearby resident Andreas Koshis who heard the heated argument. “He was angrily asking him to go home but the foreigner remained in the middle of the street for some reason.”
Koshis said he heard Duleba shouting names in Polish. “I thought he was calling his friends to get out of the car but it was the dog he was calling.”
Koshis said he went downstairs to the street when everything went quiet and saw the man lying on the tarmac.
“I thought he was unconscious,” Koshis told reporters.
Other residents said they could hear shouting, which lasted several minutes.
The Pole was found lying on the tarmac with the suspect gone.
He later turned up at the Pera Horio Nisou police station where he told officers he had hit a man with his hands and left him lying unconscious on Boumboulinas Street.
But state pathologist Nicolas Charalambous found that the victim had wounds on the head and throat caused by a sharp instrument.
“It looks like he has suffered blows from an as yet unknown object,” Nicosia district police chief Kypros Michaelides said.
But the suspect denies hitting Duleba using an object.
One resident said the suspect was always known to have a short fuse.
“But we were surprised because he did not seem like a man who would do such a thing,” the resident said.
“In his good days he is a perfect man,” another resident who knows the suspect told the Sunday Mail.
“He doesn’t stand for any nonsense but I wouldn’t have thought he was a violent person. Not in that sense,” said the man who did not wish to be named.
The bar has been around for many years and has changed hands several times.
The suspect was expected to be brought before the Nicosia district court later last night for a remand hearing.

Thu, August 5th 2010 at 12:11

Nicos yiapatos from london comments:

I am very sad to hear about this young guy loosing his life like that
what ever the argument was. But what makes me angry and very upset is
when people criticize and remarks a hole country from the actions of the individual. Incidence like that in Dhali Cyprus, are happening all over the world and in any nationality,Greek,Turkish English and in any race. I can assure you all these people will feel anger and will be upset in the same way when they hear about incidence like this. There for we have to be more realistic because its not fair to hear one's activities and judge the whole Nation. One thing for sure is that we are far from leaving in a perfect world

Wed, August 4th 2010 at 20:13

desert voice comments:

N. Carrera, What you are asking belongs to a different world, not this world. I am surprised that you do not understand the problem, even though you are from that area. The problem is cultural incompability between foreigners, especially Americans and Poles, and the people from the Mediterranean! This incompability causes that a Pole, or American, is utterly unprepared how to react, when insulted or threatened in any way! The people from Cyprus, or Italy, start "working on you" soon you come into their orbit of influence! They will yell at you because they know, that in your country this degrades. They will bring you psychologically down in an instant. Then, they will repeat the same a hundred or thousand times ... until you leave, feeling less than a person, castrated! These rotten snakes win because no one has challenged their rotten culture for thousans of years. I tried ... but even the police refused to act when I asked them. I had to tell the Italian carabinieri that they lacked balls. I told them that several times, with words and gestures. Only then, did they act ... but sided with the Italian bar owner. This case will end in the same way lest the government of Poland files a lawsuit to defend this dead Pole!

Wed, August 4th 2010 at 19:55

desert voice comments:

Joanna, you probably do not know Italy. Poles are complete neophites when it comes to foreign culture. But I have spent 50 years outside Poland, and I know every race and culture under the sun. Tell your "still living" friends never to go to any Italian or Cypriot bar, or any bar in the Mediterranean, lest they are willing to be verbally or physically abused! The Italians abuse you even in the church. It happened to me in Neptuno, at the World Shrine of the Little Flower! I was at the verge of using my iron bar, when I walked out! I had to use all my will power not to injure someone ... inside the church! And I am a devote Catholic! I knew that fighting them meant terrible things ... for me! And I went away without destroying their rotten Italian faces ... I can't forget this to this day! I had hundred similar experiences in Italy, includin at the largest universities, where a Italian professor broke my rib for asking him for appointment ... and then reported me to the Italian police! Never go to Italy to remain a person, a man! You will have to fight and either prevail, or die, or spend the rest of your life in jail! They won't let you win! When an Italian run me over with a car, in Rome, there were 34 witnesses, including the police. But they all refused to write down his licence plate ... even though he stopped there and spoke with them for half an hour! In the countryside, you are their prey! They kill you, or they step on you! You either do their bidding and play sucker, or you have to fight and lose your tranquillity for ever!

Wed, August 4th 2010 at 19:39

desert voice from Cracow comments:

There is no question in my mind that the Pole was brutally murdered! I know the cowardly race of the Mediterranean! If they are not Mafia, they are treacherous like the Mafia! I have studied this people for almost six years. They always carry a weapon of some kind. They always provoke you to anger, so that you try to hit them. But they are prepared. They always are accompanied by a witness ... and you are always guilty! First, they insult you by throwing water at you. Then, they come out always standing against a wall that is made of Italian type finishing which is very rough. If you throw a blow, they move and you destroy your fist. Then they attack you with some sharp object. They always have at least three witnesses, and make sure that you are alone. People who go to the Mediterranean, Cyprus, Italy, etc. must know what they are in store for! I was poisoned to the brink of death two times in six years. A woman fell as I was passing by at nigh on Metro steps, and then her compagnion accused me of pushing her and "destroying her expensive fur." He wanted money, which of course he didn't got. I witnessed Poles either shot dead, working as slaves in tomato harvest, or simply dead from hunger in Aosta, and so on. The Polish embassy does not do enough, even though I had repeatedly asked their help. One Pole died sitting in the woods near Anzio. The foreigner must be prepared, better be!

Tue, August 3rd 2010 at 18:36

Andreas comments:

Some people want to play it taught and crazy and think they can do whatever they feel like, even in other people's properties. One day they meet someone who is tougher and more crazy than they are...

Tue, August 3rd 2010 at 05:25

Chris from London comments:

It's a sad state of affairs when someone dies for such a trifling little incident as a dog! One life ended and another ruined.

Unfortunately I can only see these things occurring more frequently - often as a result of a misunderstanding, a slight or plain ignorance.

You may not like it but to many Cypriots dogs are seen as unclean and to have it in a restaurant would cause offence - it does not matter if dogs are taken into restaurants in Paris or where-ever, you just have to go with the flow with however they do things in one country or another and show some respect with the way you behave and act towards individuals of those countries as they often react totally different from the way someone from your own contry of origin reacts.

You should try taking a dog into a restaurant in Turkey or other middle eastern countries and see how they react. For god's sake the only dogs you could take into a bar or restaurant in England are guide dogs and even those individuals are given a hard time by the owners especially if they are asian or chinese.

Show some respect and you get it back - unfortuantely all I ever see on this site is typical stereotypical and racial slants all the time -it most surely make you feel good to rubbish an entire country on the actions of an individual.

Tue, August 3rd 2010 at 00:05

Joanna from POLAND comments:

It's really terrible what happened!!!Damian is my friend.Can't believe that someone did it to him!i believe that he will pay for this and stay in jail until the end of his days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mon, August 2nd 2010 at 22:29

T Jones from USA comments:

Iv, so sorry, so sorry that he had to fall victim to this scrupulous land..

Mon, August 2nd 2010 at 20:57

Jules from Limassol comments:

To: T Jones from USA

It seems to be the unwritten law that dogs are not welcome any place in Cyprus.

Very sad to we European people.

I want to know what happened to the dog please.

Mon, August 2nd 2010 at 13:27

Al from Planet Earth comments:

True about the comment on how RIK portrays foreigners; it still uses derogatory racist terminology that unfortunately reflects the nature of Cypriot society at the moment.

Sadly this is another tragic case that is happening all too often.

Mon, August 2nd 2010 at 12:30

Iv comments:

His name was Damian not Sebastian, and he was a lovely young man. He left one year old son. We will all miss him...

Mon, August 2nd 2010 at 08:04

N Carrera from Nicosia comments:

The crime has already happened... but what annoys me the most is how RIK (CyBC) would constantly refer to the poor dead boy as 'o allodapos' or 'o xenos', as were the people that were being interviewed.

What difference does it make that the murdered boy was a foreigner or alien? What matters is that the other beast killed him and must be severely punished for it. An example needs to be set by the judiciary and any sentence should include a racially motivated uplift on the time the beast must stay in jail.

Incidentally, I speak Greek but pretend not to most of the time just to hear the xenophobic verbal diarrhoea that comes out of Cypriots mouth, and it is always priceless then insulting them in Greek :)

Sun, August 1st 2010 at 21:44

Mark comments:

People take dogs to restaurants and bars in Paris and other cities around the world.But in Cyprus most of the people that want the island to be their paradise are factory workers that don't seem to even know how to get to next town! The bars are not fun places and safe places to go in Cyprus anymore.

Sun, August 1st 2010 at 20:43

Killing comments:

I think this is because Cypriot started to feel threaten by the foreingers and the so called government doesn't do anything about it people are reacting.
I remember my neighbor had a dog barking day and night and the police wouldn't do anything about it so i did.

Sun, August 1st 2010 at 20:05

T Jones from usa comments:

Just look at teh photo, how many hands on hips do you see, that is a cypriot investigation going on.
Sadly tempers got the better of both people, are dogs not allowed in bars in Cyprus? I guess not..one law that they want to inforce??

Sun, August 1st 2010 at 20:03

Joe Citizen from Limassol comments:

Emir Soler comments:
Greek Cyprus become a "killing fields", not a day goes by without some one getting killed'-------
Find me a place where this does not happen. Stay out of the hot sun please.

Sun, August 1st 2010 at 19:13

Penman comments:

Reality from Nicosia and Emir Soler your comments are grossly inappropriate and thoughtless. Christoph and the other commentator are correct to regard the incident as a tragedy. Two lives wrecked, One lost and the other probably in prison for a long time.

Sun, August 1st 2010 at 19:00

dinesh gurung from nepal comments:

well i just can say its bad- time running n devil comes to earth. so we have to carefull what we r doing........ all mankind.....

Sun, August 1st 2010 at 16:15

Christoph from USA comments:

Kill someone over absolutely nothing. Utterly appalling. Two lives wrecked.

Sun, August 1st 2010 at 15:18

alojz from Poland comments:

Shit happens. I can realize, why someone can do such a terrible thing? In the name of what? Dog in the pub? He should call for police, and let them do their job.
End of story. Young guy is dead, and nobody can turn back time.

Sun, August 1st 2010 at 12:51

Get Real! from Nicosia comments:

Is there any other foreigner out there who plans to take his dog to the pub?

Sun, August 1st 2010 at 12:02

MELIOS A. IOANNIDES comments:

A very sad story.
Two extreme behaviours.
1.Applying strict business rules.
2.Rejecting such rules and provoking to the end.
3.Uncontrolable temper did the rest.
Justice will follow its course.