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What was the meaning behind Erdogan’s words?
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FeaturesLAST MONTH might prove to be just like any month, any February of any year in the calendar cycle. Or it could prove to be the month that saw a fundamental shift in Turkish policy on Cyprus and the obstinate conflict that refuses to be quiet.
Three key Turkish figures in the top echelons of power broke new ground, opening backchannels of communication with Greek Cypriots for the first time in decades.
Mid-February, Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu invited Greek Cypriot representatives of academia and civil society to his offices in Ankara to discuss Greek-Turkish relations and the Cyprus problem.
Last weekend, Greek Cypriot journalists and politicians shared a 90-minute meeting with Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayip Erdogan and one hour with EU Minister Egemen Bagis in Istanbul. This was the first time a Turkish leader directly addressed Greek Cypriot representatives, specifically, journalists from Alithia, Politis and the Cyprus Mail, as well as former Cyprus-EU chief negotiator Takis Hadjidemetriou and United Democrats leader Praxoulla Antoniadou Kyriacou.
Turkish Cypriot journalists also attended but one could argue they were only there to hold the candles as the real date was between the Turkish leadership and the Greek Cypriot contingent.
Perhaps equally important was the presence of the Greek delegation. Cyprus has always been used as a lever for thawing or heating relations between Greece and Turkey. More recently, it’s been considered a thorn in the side of improving Greco-Turkish relations. Removing the Cyprus problem would probably eliminate the biggest obstacle to peaceful cooperation between the two NATO members in the Eastern Mediterranean.
So what messages did Erdogan give?
Time is right for a solution
“The time is now for Cyprus, with four pro-solution leaders in the two communities and two ‘motherlands’.”
This is significant in that it acknowledges that President Demetris Christofias actually wants a solution. As Bagis put it: “The problem and the solution are both on the island. The two leaders both want a solution. The two prime ministers of the guarantor countries also want a solution. The two leaders know what the problems are and who is blocking the solution.”
Now, when Turkey backs you up on your solution credentials, it goes some way to undermining those critics who argue you’re simply manoeuvring to avoid blame for the collapse of the talks while preparing for re-election.
A side message here was that Ankara would not let contender to the Turkish Cypriot throne Dervis Eroglu walk out of the talks should he get elected. However, by the time he gets clued up and builds a workable, trusting relationship with Christofias, too much time will have passed- an obvious nod to Mehmet Ali Talat.
Leadership skills
“A solution requires leadership, strong will and determination.”
The inference here is that Erdogan has all three qualities, as displayed in last month’s mop up of unruly army officers, while Christofias needs to acquire all three and fast.
The Turkish PM acknowledged that the Greek Cypriot leader was taking a lot of flak from the press on the negotiations, but tempered that with: “We would not like to see some excuses cast a shadow over this process because the goal at the end of the day is to reach a comprehensive settlement, and I believe that if the necessary strong determination and will is presented then we can achieve a fair and lasting result in as short a time as possible.”
On parliament’s resolution calling for an end to guarantees in Cyprus and by extension Europe, Erdogan said: “Internal domestic problems cannot constitute an excuse for the actions of the Greek Cypriot side.”
In the same vein but in slight contradiction, Bagis stressed that the Cyprus issue was such a delicate issue in Turkey that no elected politician could be expected to sacrifice on Cyprus just for the EU. He also noted that the nationalist party in Turkey had doubled its vote in five years to 16 per cent by campaigning solely on the platform that Erdogan had sold out northern Cyprus.
“So you have to understand Turkey is not an emirate, it’s not a sultanate where the prime minister makes a decision and everybody obeys. This is a democracy, and we have to always keep the balance and watch and be careful about the sensitivities of the people,” explained Bagis.
Turkey’s support is genuine
“Turkey genuinely seeks a fair and lasting comprehensive solution based on the joint declaration of the two leaders on May 23, 2008.”
Erdogan referred specifically to his support for a bizonal, bicommunal federation as defined by the relevant UN resolutions, with political equality and a single international identity. UN Special Adviser to Cyprus Alexander Downer found this to be particularly “significant” since it was the first time a Turkish PM had been “so specific and so clear about Turkey’s support” for the agreed basis of a solution.
However, after May 23, Talat and Christofias also agreed on the idea of “single citizenship” and “single sovereignty”. This was not given specific reference by Erdogan though one could refer to Bagis’ assertion that Turkey is ready to support any solution agreed by the two leaders which has majority support from their communities.
Withdrawal of Turkish troops
“Turkish troops would leave Cyprus, perhaps in their entirety.”
Erdogan: “With respect to the withdrawal of troops, we’ve spoken about this before. Over a period of time, we’ve said before that those troops can be withdrawn.” However, Turkey will not respond to calls for immediate troop withdrawal, he added.
Bagis was more specific: “Any solution that President Talat and President Christofias can come up with and convince their respective communities will have Turkey’s full blessing and support. As long as it is based on political equality, as long as Turkish Cypriots and Greek Cypriots accept the solution, Turkey will be there. If that solution involves withdrawing our troops, we will withdraw our troops.”
He said that the top Turkish military brass, also known as the “deep state”, had approved the Annan plan back in 2004 which called for a reduction in Turkish troops to 650 and Greek troops to 950.
Bagis even hinted that the option of all troops leaving the island was not unthinkable if the two communities agreed on it. “The Turkish military was OK with the Annan plan. It was difficult. And by now, in the fifth anniversary of the Annan plan, there would be referenda on the island, to zero the number of troops on the island.”
Turkey will honour its signature
“Our goal is to achieve a lasting comprehensive settlement to the problem in Cyprus. We are ready to do our share to achieve that goal, and no one should or can doubt Turkey’s sincerity,” Erdogan said. A significant factor here is the acknowledgement, perhaps for the first time, that fear, suspicion and mistrust plagued both communities and not just the one.
Again, Bagis was more forthcoming on Greek Cypriot fears that Turkey will not stick to its part of the bargain. “Turkey does not make a promise until she’s ready. But once we make a promise, we always keep it, especially as long as Erdogan is prime minister. I can assure you this is a man who has spent a whole life keeping his promises, knowing that it will hurt him.
He told a story from Burgenstock in 2004 when the then President Tassos Papadopoulos and Greek PM Costas Karamanlis approached Erdogan with an offer. They pledged to push for a date for the start of EU accession talks with Turkey if he agreed to postpone the solution talks in Switzerland. Papadopoulos argued that they weren’t ready and needed more time. Erdogan refused, citing a promise he made to the UN Secretary-General to always be one step ahead.
“I spent more time with him in the last eight years than with my family. I know him, he’s a man of his word. Either he doesn’t give the word, but if he does, his word is stronger than any signature, commitment, law or parliament action, I can assure you of that,” said Bagis.
To underline the fear imprinted in both communities, Bagis recalled that his father was as a teacher in Paphos in the 1960s, before he was born.
“He would tell my mother he’s going to the coffee shop at night, but he would go to the ceiling of the apartment that they lived in and wait in front of the gun in case someone came to attack our family.
“We all hear stories like this. I heard it when I was growing up, but it’s enough. We have to think about our children, not our childhood, but our children,” he said.
Direct dialogue
“Let’s get together and talk through our problems in a four or five-party meeting.”
One of the stumbling blocks identified in finding a solution is the lack of mutual understanding and trust between Turkey and the Greek Cypriots, who never have direct dialogue. Erdogan has suggested that the two leaders on the island meet with the two guarantor powers, Greece and Turkey, in four-party talks. Britain as a non-“motherland” is not necessarily needed though would be accepted if requested.
Christofias rejected the proposal arguing that this would mean de facto recognition of Talat as president. The Turkish PM counter-offered saying the meeting could take place under the auspices of the UNSG, a bit like what’s happening in Nicosia airport now. Another proposal was to include Spain, currently holding the EU Presidency, which has friendly relations with both Cyprus and Turkey.
Greek Cypriots on Turkey’s EU accession
“Who do Greek Cypriots think they are blocking an entire energy chapter?”
Turkey clearly does not like being pushed into a corner, and this was made clear by all three Turkish officials. The impression given was that you would get more working with Turkey than going against it. Another view is that Greek Cypriots wouldn’t even be on the Turkish radar if they didn’t use what few levers they had at their disposal.
Bagis was at pains to stress that EU membership was really to the benefit of Greek Cypriots. Erdogan offered to give fresh water to the Greek Cypriots through a pipeline from Turkey to Cyprus. “I don’t know, maybe the Greek Cypriots won’t want that water, maybe they’ll say it’s Turkish water.” Bagis described EU accession as the “golden formula” that would eliminate fears and suspicions on both sides of the divide.
End to arms purchases
“Greece and Turkey need to stop buying arms and invest in peace and prosperity for the region.”
Both Bagis and Erdogan gave a lot of emphasis to improving relations with Greece. Bagis noted that some countries were against Turkey’s EU membership because they wanted to continue selling arms to both Turkey and Greece.
“We were about to have a war over some rocks on the Aegean,” said Bagis, adding that the Erdogan government has done much to enhance ties between the two historic foes since coming to power.
Erdogan said: “What happened has happened in the past, we should leave it there. We have to look at the future and how we build the future…What we’re saying to our friends is to not engage in more armaments because we should be investing in the people, that’s what gains us results.”
In fact, ambitions to create “zero problems” with its neighbours is one of Turkey’s driving forces in seeking to conclude the Cyprus problem, that and its need to stay on the path to EU accession.
One factor worth noting here is the indication that Turkey sees the Greek Cypriots as being inextricably linked to Greece in the way Turkish Cypriots are to Turkey. For example, Turkey might misguidedly assume that Greek Cypriots would accept a solution whereby Turkey retains guarantor rights over a Turkish Cypriot constituent state if there was a similar Greek guarantee for the Greek Cypriot constituent state.
WHAT THE ANALYST SAYS
Hugh Pope of the International Crisis Group in Istanbul said the meeting between the top Turkish leaders and Greek Cypriots was “absolutely marvellous”.
“There is no established track two between Turkey and the Greek Cypriots. It’s immediately apparent that the two sides are much closer conceptually than they are rhetorically.
“If you blindfolded the two sides and found out what’s really going on, they are not that far apart. It’s a matter of trust. Can a Greek Cypriot trust in a normalised future with Turkey, that troops will go? The only way they can really believe that in their hearts is if they meet Erdogan and Davutoglu face to face,” he said.
“The key thing stopping negotiations leaving first base is Christofias wondering whether Turkey is there for him, whether he’s really negotiating a solution or an interim agreement. He will only ever know if he meets them.”
Pope argued that Turkey was trying in its own way to reach out to Greek Cypriots. “Just like Christofias must be seeing a brick wall rushing up to him, Turkey also knows that failure in the talks puts the Cyprus problems in the deep freeze indefinitely.
“They’ve adopted new language, talking about two presidents. They’re offering to bring in an EU country to make it easier for Christofias to meet. It’s the Turkish equivalent of an appeal, saying ‘please let’s meet and talk’,” said Pope.
The analyst argued that the decision was taken as far back as 2002 that it would be better for the Turkish Cypriots to join the EU before the Turks. “Plan A is not independence of the ‘TRNC’. It’s definitely plan B though.”


Nicholas Pappas comments:
Meeting of the Four may finally produce the desired results. The masses are poorly educated without an objective and trusting eye. Let the leaders make the final decisions that will finally put to rest the fear that exists.
Cyprus for all Cypriots!!!
nelly from telaviv comments:
looks hopefull
Mike from Australia comments:
S.GEORGIOU from Cyprus, I could not have said it better my self.
S.GEORGIOU from Cyprus comments:
All through history talk has been far cheaper than actions, remember Hitler promised no Polish Invasion then came blitz Kreig. There is no need for constant invasions of Cypriot airspace causing a risk to life on commercial planes this occurs as a flexing of Turkish muscle and instilling fear. There is absolutly no need for the level of the Turkish military presance other than to again instil fear in the G/Cs. So if Mr Erdogan your sincere if only as a gesture of goodwill and to instill confidence in the G/Cs then withdraw some of Turkeys forces and return Famagusta what does Turkey or the T/Cs have to lose by doing so? T/Cs are already EU citizens many have Republic of Cyprus passports so are protected by the EU. Mr Erdogan remember YOUR country is the invader/aggressor here and you should make the first step of compromise so we can move on talk is cheap and actions speak louder than words so go ahead and prove your words are sincere.
Nicholas Pappas from USA comments:
If this is the way to finalize an agreement without restrictions but with comprehensive integrity from all corners, let there be a peaceful solution. Justice for all!!!
Cyprus Conscious from Nicosia comments:
Bagis was more specific: “Any solution that 'President' Talat and President Christofias can come up with and convince their respective communities will have Turkey’s full blessing and support. As long as it is based on political equality, as long as Turkish Cypriots and Greek Cypriots accept the solution, Turkey will be there. If that solution involves withdrawing our troops, we will withdraw our troops.”
Cyprus Conscious answers to Bagis CLEARLY: “Any solution that Erdogan and Otsalaan can come up with and convince their respective communities will have Cyprus and the rest of EU countries’s full blessing and support. As long as it is based on political equality, as long as Turks and Kurds Turkish citizens accept the solution, EU will be there. If that solution involves withdrawing Turkish troops from Kurdish villages, and allow the Kurds to live freely in their own country, EU will support Turkish withdraw of troops.”
Political equality for all people!!! What are the Kurds who are Turkish citizens? moroons or what?
Theories we are reading and hearing for 36 years.......Erdogan can start ACTION and not theories........
P.S. Erdogan will start action soon, but it is ONLY to fool the Greeks. It will only start ACTIONS that has NOTHING to loose. The guy is the greatest Turkish Political Actor......just like Reegan!! You will see.......Erdogan and his government is not doing something for fun or without plans........YOU WILL SEE.
PRESIDENT CHRISTOFIA I HOPE YOU ARE NOT NAIVE.....GO AHEAD WITH FAMAGUSTA ISSUE AND APOSTOLOS ANDREAS AND LETS WATCH ERDOGAN REACTION.
Nick Lescure from London comments:
Hear hear @pan from USA - unfortunately in the real world those with power dictate and the people have to take it!
pan from U.S.A comments:
One man, one vote...just like in south africa. the majority should decide on how a country should be run. the world was so eager to implement majority rule in south africa, why not the same for cyrpus? the annan plan was not a solution for cyprus - it was joke!! To keep it simple, only individuals truly with a cypriot passport should vote, and select a legitimate president (preferably not a communist), and all the divisions, and the green line etc should fall away, and everyone should go back to their homes. that is democracy. anything else is just political blabber, and the only people that truly suffer are both greek and turkish cypriots, while the politicians on both sides are becoming more corrupt and and filling their "gold" chests.
Zak from Uk comments:
Man of his word??
There are reports that while he was talking "peace"
His warplanes were violating Greek air space!!
The question is
Who is in charge in Turkey.
Still not convinced that the generals have backed down!!
Mike from Australia comments:
The best thing said about the Armenian tragedy was a sermon delivered in the main church in Constantinople in 1894, more than 20 years before it happened. Patriarch Ashikyan had this to say: “We have lived with the Turks for a thousand years, have greatly flourished, are nowhere in this empire in a majority of the population. If the nationalists go on like this [they had started a terrorist campaign] they will ruin the nation.”
That Patriarch was quite right, and the nationalists shot him (and many other notables who were saying the same thing).
Now a US Congressional committee has had its say, by voting to recognise as “genocide” the mass killing of Armenians by Turkish forces that began in 1915, during the First World War.
Is the committee right? When the First World War broke out there were Armenian uprisings and the Patriarch’s fears were realised. The population in much of the territory of today’s Turkey was deported in cruel circumstances that led to much murder and pillage.
Has Turkey's attitude changed any since 1915?
At last the Americans have recognised the Armenian Genocide does this mean that they will finally get their actm together and drive the illegal Turks out of Northern Cyprus?
Downunder comments:
Don’t underestimate the Greeks, they know how to fight on. During WWII, Greece, was the only country that was forced to confront the armies of four countries at the same time.
The Greeks resisted for 219 days. Norway surrender in 61 days whilst France (a superpower at the time) capitulated in 43 days. Poland gave up in 30 days, Holland in 4 days and Yugoslavia in 3 days. Czechoslovakia, Luxemburg and Denmark surrendered immediately.
Adolph Hitler stated in the Reichstag on May 4, 1941 as follows:
“For the sake of historical truth I must verify that only Greeks, of all the adversaries who confronted us, fought with bold courage and highest disregard of death”
The following is from Joseph Stalin’s radio broadcast of January 31, 1943 after the victory of Stalingrad and the capitulation of German 6th army Field Marshal Von Paulus:
“I am sorry because I am getting old and I shall not live long to thank the Greek People, whose resistance decided WWII.”
And believe me there is more.
Dave comments:
Chrysostomos and all the GC in USA should tell USA government to get out of Iraq and Afghanistan where they murdering women and children.Just like in Vietnam and other places.Why don't you pick on someone else,like Castro.He kick US butt for 50 years LOL
Chrysostomos Sophocleous from U.S.A. comments:
Mr Erdogan said, What has happensd in the past, We should leave it
there. We have to look at the future and how We build the future.
If Mr. Erdogan is really means what he said,why he continue having over thirty thausand soldiers in the Island.This is not fare for the Presitend of Cyprus,He is negoshiating from fear,
If Mr. Erdogan means what He says,take the soldiers away and show
that you mean business,and besides you are not afraid of tiny
Island.
Chrysostomos Sophocleous.
LY2H3
George from Australia comments:
There are two options here.Do we want the Belgian model one nationality (Belgian) Dutch and French are two official languages. Or do we want the current model of two separate states Republic of Cyprus and TRNC ie "Irish Model" Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland two seperate states on the same geographic region.
Maybe its time for one last vote so we can finally rest this issue once and for all.Do we want want the Belgian or the Irish model?
Harry Theofanus comments:
Our comment,
We, oversees Cypriots follow the talks that started September 2008 by the two community leaders seeking a solution to reunify Cyprus. The main goal of these talks is to reunify the country under a bizonal-bicommunal Federal State based on political equality, with a single identity, single citizenship and single sovereignty. Talks that are based on UN adopted resolutions and the 1977-79 and 2006-08 agreements between the leaders of the Greek-Cypriot and the Turkish-Cypriot communities of Cyprus. The talks are supported by the United Nations and the European Union and are under the supervision of the UNSG’s office. Talks that Turkey says she supports but in fact at this present time she dictates by using the Turkish illegal settlers to control the results of the referendum and her military to control the police and the security of the occupied area.
We support the talks, BUT we believe that for the talks to reach a JUST, WORKABLE AND LASTING reunification solution the UN Secretary General must make it clear to Turkey that Turkish outside interference must be removed from Cyprus as per UN adopted resolutions, ie removal of illegal Turkish troops and settlers. EU must make it clear to Turkey that occupation of part of an EU member is not acceptable. The United States and the other four permanent members of the Security Council must insist that Turkey implements UN adopted resolutions asking for removal of all foreign troops and respect of the under the supervision of the UNSG’s office and are Independence, sovereignty and territorial integrity of Cyprus.
Harry Theofanus Human Rights Advocate and Past President of CFA and PSEKA
Christoph from USA comments:
Cyprus takes over the EU Presidency in 2012 and the Turks don't want this issue festering then. Can you imagine if they had to face a Greek Cypriot EU President!
Erdogan knows what's coming and wants a resolution before then. This is face-savings on Turkey's part, nothing more. Certainly not a late-in-the-game act of contrition. Turks don't operate that way.
Charis Kosmides from Piraeus, Greece comments:
Big hurry is due to current political & economic developments, internal and external i.e. opportunity window to enact Eroan's long held views for necessity to resolve Turko-Hellenic differences, need to curtail Turkish military expenditure while there is some degree of control the pashas in the army, solution to Kurdish question, need to show progress in foreign affairs to electorate, EU entry etc. and need to cut down spending of 3 Bn Euros per annum on TRNC security and subsidies. The Turkish people want progress, not TRNC as a millstone halting their economic progress and international acceptance forever. For degree of responsibility shown at this juncture signalling to Greek Cypriots that a change of unsustainable Turko hemogenaic policies over the island is possible, I can only applaud. Dialogue between Greek Cypriots and Turkey should continue and Erdoan should now drop his reluctance to speak to Demitris Christophias at UN or other forae and should stop blocking Cyprus entry to international organisations - in which Turkish Cypriot element will be also participate after the settlement.
Thelma comments:
Why the hurry now, what is taking place in the world right now,that there should be an urgency for a solution. What are the real reasons,will they show up later.
Charis Kosmides from Piraeus, Greece comments:
Erdoan has correct assessment of situation, but still comes off with air of Turkish superiority of pashas over that puny Greek Cypriot thorn. Time for the Turks to withdraw from their bankrupt nationalist policy of forcibly pushing Greeks off historically Greek territories - including Cyprus Greek for about 3400 years. It is understandable on past performance that the Greek Cypriots cannot trust the Turks unless today's pashas make actions for full respect to territorial integrity and rights to air and sea of independent Cyprus. How the Cypriots divide the power in Cyprus with each other is up their issue - Turkey's Army has ensured the Turks of Cyprus have a stkte in the eventual federal state. Greece no longer considers it necessary to have formal guarantees or any political power over the Greek Cypriot community. The #1 issue it to remove the joint occupation in Cyprus, Turkish and Greek, and allow these compatriots to peacefully resolve their problems. The Greek Cypriot nationalists accept that Cyprus is not Crete, and must act according to 21st century norms, the Turkish Cypiots are here to stay forever in their homes with their other Cypriot brothers with political equality and equal universal suffrage for every Cypriot citizen, to a timetable.
Bagis is a smart guy. I can attest, it has always been the sellers of arms who wish to continue the Hellenic Turkish problems, acrimony, including Cyprus, which hopefully with Turkey finally accepting the advice of Athens to act according to being a nation ruled by its own and international laws and start following these international laws, removing threats of war on its books, etc. The Hellenic Turkish problems will end, if the Turks make it so. Turkey has bigger fish to fry than these Hellenic-Turkish problems - or, what easily could be non-problems - such as problems with the ergokon conspiracy nationalists, Kurdish people's civil rights, the Iranian and Israeli nuclear arms threats to peace and stablilty in the world and the Armenian-Azeri conflict. Greece is amenable to use her considerable influence in the region and co-operate with Erdoan to try to resolve these threats to peace in our region jointly.
If Britain and her arms companies BAe Systems, VT Group and other companies does not spoil the fair settlement being negotiated in Cyprus and those on the Aegian continental shelf, all EU members will convince the reamaing Turkish entry skeptics, France, Austria and Germany to allow Turkey to enter EU as full member subject to usual transitory arrangements. Ataturk's vision for a Turkey completely harmonised to Europe will then be fulfilled. His true successor is Eroan, not today's cosmic nationalists.
Christoph from USA comments:
Erdogan is a 'man of his word'? Uh huh. Then why is the EU Customs Protocol still not enacted?
I guess his word isn't so good afterall.