Our View: A peculiar way of spreading Christian values

Published on December 30, 2009

PRESIDENT Christofias’ response to Archbishop Chrysostomos’ Christmas message was a subtle reminder of how the head of the Church has lost the plot, in his unrelenting efforts to become a Makarios-type Ethnarch.

“The only comment I want to make is an expression of love for the Archbishop and the Church leadership and all the Cypriot people.”

Someone needed to remind Chrysostomos of the spirit of Christmas, which he treated with disdain in his poisonous political message. Whereas in most parts of the world Church leaders talk about hope, goodwill and Christian values, the Archbishop of Cyprus peddled political pessimism and distrust, in his ongoing attempts to block a settlement.

He implicitly cast doubts on the president’s patriotism and tried to stir public hostility towards the Turkish Cypriots, warning that a settlement would make Cyprus Turkish in 20 to 25 years.

Apart from playing the national leader he also assumed the role of prophet. He prophesied the imminent submission of a peace plan that would be worse than the Annan plan, and its possible acceptance would lead to many woes for the Greek Cypriots. We do not have an Archbishop in this country, but prophet of doom who instils fear in his flock and preaches hatred.

It is a peculiar way of spreading Christian values, but Chrysostomos has never been a very religious man. Perhaps this is why the content of his Church messages is political and he rarely deals with spiritual matters.

In a sense, it is just as well, considering his un-priest-like public behaviour over the years. He has a better chance of being listened to when he talks about politics than about the faith on which, despite his title, he is unfit to offer guidance.

This is why we have to accept that his Christmas, Easter and other religious day messages will be fanatical, political diatribes against a settlement. This is what he knows and believes, which is why we will have to put up with his political sermons for as long as he remains Archbishop.

Fri, January 1st 2010 at 20:12

Meat comments:

Of course your bishop wants Turkish rule as he is wise to history as he knows full well how the Greek chures prospered under Islam of the Ottoman Turks.
He wishes for this again as you are on the verge of drowning in the EU as the Greeks only constitute 0.25% of the population which is mostly Catholic who are your greater enemy hahaha.

Fri, January 1st 2010 at 16:44

Nicholas Pappas from USA comments:

It is quite obvious that the church is a political and economic power wielding its way with a heavy blow. Place the church on the same level as you tax any enterprise and see how the economic situation will be reversed. The wealth and properties that the church possesses is off of the backs of the Cypriot people. If Chrisostomos is a church leader, his message is one of anger and hate, surely not one of love. Have the church give up its worldly treasures. It is the people that need it, not the church. Also, this political power is only interested in itself and is a main cause of preventing the unification of this precious island. Separation of Church and State is what is needed, not a meddling political priest that preaches negativity.

Fri, January 1st 2010 at 10:49

Herodotus Georgiou comments:

Makarios always said that Cyprus will be Turkified. Now Chrisostomos golden mouth is saying the same thing that in 20 -25 years Cyprus will be Turkish.Sounds like to me the church's goal is to make Cyprus Turkish! Be careful for what you wish for Chrisostomos! I think the secret is out- you don't truly want peace in this land!!! Also you only preach love and never practice it! Actions speak louder than words!

Thu, December 31st 2009 at 12:07

Michael D. from Limassol comments:

Chris Green from Kyrenia said:
"We do not have an Archbishop in this country, but prophet of doom who instils fear in his flock and preaches hatred."

It is important to realise that an Archibishop is not a priest, but a political figure with a duty to act in the best interest of the 'true faith' (whatever that means). Sometimes, this duty leads him to act in an unpopular manner, because it is not a responsibility of an Archibishop to be popular. Can we really criticize someone for doing his job?

On the side issue, I disagree with the views presented in the article. It is true that the language used by the Archibishop of Cyprus was unnecessarily vague, leading to surprisingly dangerous interpretations. But the core of his message was somewhat less controversial - that Cyprus government should be cautious and avoid acting in a rush manner, just to respond to political pressure. Cyprus Church is a powerful body with a lot of members and direct interest in the well-being of the State, so at very least their views should be considered with caution, even if they are to be ignored...

Thu, December 31st 2009 at 11:32

Chris Green from Kyrenia Cyprus comments:

We do not have an Archbishop in this country, but prophet of doom who instils fear in his flock and preaches hatred.

He is hardly unique, consider Makarious! Such a Godly man.....NOT.

Thu, December 31st 2009 at 05:50

E.E from Melbourne comments:

Congratulation to Christofis’ response to Archbishop Chrysostom’s. Arguments and opinions in this section little childish and passé on booth side of the divide. Haven’t any one heard of “FORGIVE AND FORGET” Move on this will never finish if we throw the blame to one another.
I am please to see he will not tolerate any nonsense from religious leaders as this got us in to this mess last 50 years. He must be the first in GC. I can almost see a little light of hope for peace in a distance if Christofis gets the support of rest of GC. Hope he will be the men to bring peace to G&T Cyprus. On the other side of token TC, I believe TC is very ready for peace since they suffered lot more with embargoes.
Lets be realistic there will be no fair result incase of peace amongst our people. As John Lennon said, GIVE PEACE A CHANCE.

Thu, December 31st 2009 at 05:26

Celtic Warrior from London comments:

Trixie - give up posting- your own poisonous comments are getting boring. We dont need comments from a five year old apologist for the invasion.

Thu, December 31st 2009 at 03:53

Edward from London comments:

Sad really that these forums stir the argument as to who was responsible for the current debacle..bit like a hamster on a wheel.

Religion and politics do not mix but alas the Church in Cyprus has always peddled its vitriol aginst the "barbarian hordes" (and yes do remember this phrase being used).

Christofias is right to put the Archbishop firmly in his place.

Wed, December 30th 2009 at 22:56

Oguz Tezcan from Famagusta comments:

MY OPINION FROM LONDON IS OR THINKS HE IS QUITE AN AUTHORITY ON HISTORY. WHICH HISTORY MY FRIEND?????!

Wed, December 30th 2009 at 21:11

trixi from girne comments:

dont blame the turks for the so called invasion ,you guys should be pionting the finger at the church!
god, should fire them from there jobs , and employ more human friendly guys to run his churchs ,
and the same goes for the guys of othere mosuqes who preach hate of other faiths and ethnic people.

you guys go on sundays to learn to hate people ,just think about it , it has nothing to do with faith or god, they just do not want the puplic under there thumbs to run and rule you guys.

Wed, December 30th 2009 at 19:54

ben dover comments:

My Opinion from London comments:
I suggest that Ben Dover(and whoever happens to share similar views)reads some history. The Turkish invasion was and is illegal and the Annan plan was not in the interests of the Greek-Cypriots. Expressing that view is not blinkered nor has anything to do with religion. End of story. The point is the the Cyprus Mail does not provide objective and unbiased journalism and as a national newspaper this should be its remit. Surely you can agree that this article is neither of those two things.

MY OPINION are you reading the same article? im fully aware of history and not just that of Cyprus...why have you gone into propaganda mode of the past when we are discussing/giving an opinion of the present day comments of the G O Archbishop.
Prhaps i should make things clearer - those of us with nothing to gain from either camp means we have NO bias and can form our own opinion.
You live in a country where the religion of that country is not allowed to meddle in the politics of the land.
Neither is the Royal family.
What other countries in the real EU allow religious bodies to dictate or sway policy?
Government are the elected representitives for policy and are elected for that reason, even here in Cyprus.
Does the R O ever pop up in pravda to give its opinion.
the only people i can think of that are unelected and are of a religious bent that formulate policy are Muslim clerics.
I may not agree with the way the Article approaches the subject but have no argument with its general thrust.
sorry but unbiased and objective jourmalism in Cyprus is as rare as rocking horse droppings. It depends on what party you support, what party the paper supports,etc etc at least in the mail there is a cross selection of various opinions by various writers (not mail staff)to give people food for thought.

Wed, December 30th 2009 at 18:54

Emir Soler from London United Kingdom comments:

If Greeks didn’t elect the famous ''Archbishop'' Cyprus wouldn’t be in this mess last 50 years.
Religion and politics doesn’t mix, just like fire and fuel

Wed, December 30th 2009 at 18:33

Michael D. from Limassol comments:

Addressing some of the comments about the writing style of the article - it is published in the opinion section, meaning that it is not necessarily an article by Cyprus Mail. Traditionally, Cyprus Mail was publishing various marginal/extreme/biased articles under that section of their website, especially those prepared by other authors. Unfortunately, for some reason, they've failed to indicate the author, which kind of nullifies the whole point of "Opinions" section and leads to confusion...

Wed, December 30th 2009 at 18:18

Louca from London comments:

@SABAN from GIRNE
Your attack at 'MyOpinion' due to his/her location being abroad is a low, cheap and unintelligent jibe. Somebody's location has no effect on their ability to have an opinion and by no way lessons it's relevance. Dismissing someone for that reason alone only proves that you yourself have very little opinion of substance to contribute to this discussion. You do not know what has taken part in somebody's life.

I agree with the general message in this article although I dislike it's tone, as a newspaper such as this should not be so heavily biased. There is a way to articulately make an argument or state an opinion without sounding like a reality TV show commentator. Words such as 'prophet of doom' do nothing to help the situation but purely fuel the fanatics on all sides of the political spectrum across all of Cyprus.

Personally I do have a very low opinion of this Archbishop and see him as a real road block to peace and reconciliation with our Turkish Cypriot brothers. I see him as somebody that mistakably believes that it is acceptable for him to step in and out of politics at will purely to promote his own warped extreme political bias. Although I am not a devout Orthodox I believe that we should respect the church as the vast majority of Greek Cypriots are religious and to simply dismiss the establishment in a juvenile way, as is portrayed here, is a direct insult to those Greek Cypriots. All the faiths and religious establishments in Cyprus should be respected and criticised in a constructive manner. This is the only way that people of that faith can understand the criticism and not be solely offended.

Wed, December 30th 2009 at 18:12

My Opinion comments:

I left because Turkey invaded my country and I lost everything

Wed, December 30th 2009 at 18:12

CONCERNED from UK comments:

Perhaps all religous leaders should KEEP OUT of politics.

Wed, December 30th 2009 at 16:47

SABAN from GIRNE comments:

MY OPINION-WHY DON'T YU COME OVER HERE AND SORT THINGS OUT. IT IS EVER SO EASY TO LIVE IN THE PAST AND STIR THINGS UP FROM 2000 MILES.
IF YOU WERE SO INTERESTED IN LOCAL POLITICS WHY DID YOU DESERT OUR BEAUTIFUL ISLAND.
WE ARE ALL TRYING TO RECONCILE AND PREP A PEACFUL COUNTRY FOR OUR CHILDREN, SO PL STAY WHERE YOU ARE AND KEEP QUIET.

Wed, December 30th 2009 at 16:04

My Opinion from London comments:

I suggest that Ben Dover(and whoever happens to share similar views)reads some history. The Turkish invasion was and is illegal and the Annan plan was not in the interests of the Greek-Cypriots. Expressing that view is not blinkered nor has anything to do with religion. End of story. The point is the the Cyprus Mail does not provide objective and unbiased journalism and as a national newspaper this should be its remit. Surely you can agree that this article is neither of those two things.

Wed, December 30th 2009 at 16:00

grammar Pedant from cyprus comments:

@my opinion from london:
you spelt grammar incorrectly. heh.

Wed, December 30th 2009 at 15:42

ben dover from high on a hill comments:

past two comments just go to show how blinkered some people are to the sentiments of this mans rhetoric...those who do not have anything to gain from either camp can see a lot clearer this man of God's meddling ways.
his best interests are his own not his flock!

do you not remember the last time? were you not born then?

Wed, December 30th 2009 at 15:30

My Opinion from London comments:

Someone who disagrees with the stupid short-sighted policies of this government, doesn't accomodate supposed "political correctness", has the best interests of his nation at heart and happens to be a priest should not be able to express his opinion according to the Cyprus Mail. Such bad journalism has not previously been seen in printed form for a long time. Whatever happened to objective journalism?? Cyprus Mail, you should be ashamed of yourselves....biased journalism and anti-patriotic views to boot! Also someone should read through your articles and make sure the grammer and spelling is correct once in a while!

Wed, December 30th 2009 at 13:59

Diakos from Lefkosia comments:

What a lot of rubbish in this article; if someone expresses an opinion that some people do not agree with then it is unchristian or if it is expressed in the the middle of the summer then it is against national unity. If the Cyprus Mail disagrees with the Archipishop then use an intelligent arguement please. Instead you resort to cheap journalism which can only be compared to the Daily Mail - by the way do not take this as a compliment

Wed, December 30th 2009 at 13:14

Paphos-Man comments:

What a well written and accurate article ..
Well Done ..

I have always said,
"never trust anyone with a big hat and a long beard"
its a sign that they hidding something! .

Remember what happened the last time.. :-)

Wed, December 30th 2009 at 12:54

Hassan Kemal from UK/Kyrenia comments:

Well said, Mr Talat wouldnt have put it any better.

Wed, December 30th 2009 at 12:05

fknose from Cyprus comments:

I heard that Nick Griffin is one of his biggest fans.

Wed, December 30th 2009 at 11:26

Dee from Paralimni comments:

This man is dangerous and a threat to peace in Cyprus. Is it possible to 'unfrock' an Archbishop?